Reference

Isaiah 29:9

Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink.
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And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel, even all that fight against her and her munition, and that distress her, shall be as a dream of a night vision.

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It shall even be as when an hungry man dreameth, and, behold, he eateth; but he awaketh, and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold, he drinketh; but he awaketh, and, behold, he is faint, and his soul hath appetite: so shall the multitude of all the nations be, that fight against mount Zion.

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Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink.

10

For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.

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And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:

Counter-Arguments

The strongest case that this verse does not belong in this theme.

Wine vs Strong Drink Distinction

The verse does not explicitly define or distinguish between "wine" and "strong drink" as different substances with different implications. It uses both terms in parallel to describe the state of being drunken and staggering, emphasizing that the cause is not literal alcohol. The verse's primary focus is on the spiritual blindness and stupor of the people, not on a nuanced differentiation of alcoholic beverages. While it uses both terms, it does not provide any information to suggest they are dis

Drunkenness Condemned

The verse describes a state of being "drunken" and "staggering" but explicitly states it is "not with wine" or "strong drink," thereby indicating a metaphorical rather than literal drunkenness. Therefore, it does not directly condemn the act of consuming alcoholic beverages or the literal loss of control associated with them.

Total Abstinence

The verse explicitly states that the drunkenness and staggering described are "not with wine" and "not with strong drink," thereby indicating that the physical effects being observed are not caused by alcohol. Therefore, it does not warn against wine or alcohol, command avoidance, or present abstinence as an ideal.