Reference

1 Thessalonians 4:17

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“Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

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Gathering of Saints

There is no counter-argument that can be made from the plain text that this verse does not support the theme "Gathering of Saints", as it explicitly describes believers being "caught up together with them" to "meet the Lord".

Present with the Lord

The verse describes a future event where living believers are "caught up" to meet the Lord, not an immediate state of being with the Lord at or after death.

Saints Reign in Heaven

The verse describes saints meeting the Lord in the air and being with Him, but it does not mention reigning, sitting on thrones, or a celestial location for a millennial reign.

Visible Return

While the verse mentions "clouds" and meeting the Lord "in the air," it focuses on believers being "caught up" to meet Him, rather than explicitly describing Christ's return to Earth as a visible event for all to witness. The visibility described is for those being caught up, not necessarily for every eye on Earth.

Two-Stage Return

The verse describes a single event where believers meet the Lord in the air and remain with Him, without explicitly detailing whether this is a distinct event from a later visible return to earth.

Gathering of Saints

Related Verses

1 Thessalonians 4:16

“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:”

1 Thessalonians 1:10

“And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.”

Revelation 11:12

“And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.”

2 Thessalonians 1:7

“And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,”

Matthew 24:31

“And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”

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